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		<title>There&#8217;s a reason I haven&#8217;t posted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Jennings</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[No&#8230; nothing broken, no hospital visits. It&#8217;s the beginning of the fall term at BCIT and time to choose courses. This term I really wanted to concentrate on Java. I&#8217;ve got a lot of previous Java experience but it&#8217;s getting a bit rusty and the tools and APIs have moved on since I last used [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; nothing broken, no hospital visits.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the beginning of the fall term at BCIT and time to choose courses. This term I really wanted to concentrate on Java. I&#8217;ve got a lot of previous Java experience but it&#8217;s getting a bit rusty and the tools and APIs have moved on since I last used it in anger.</p>
<p>BCIT offer a very interesting looking course called Java Web Applications (<a href="http://www.bcit.ca/study/courses/comp3631">COMP 3631</a>) that covers some great technology &#8211; primarily servlets and JavaServer Pages. Stuff I&#8217;m really keen to learn about and great marketable skills. However it requires Advanced Java as a prerequisite. Now I&#8217;ve done all that stuff&#8230; I&#8217;ve even taken an Advanced Java course in the past. But I&#8217;m kinda rusty on it.</p>
<p>BCIT do offer an Advanced Java course (<a href="http://www.bcit.ca/study/courses/comp3621">COMP 3621</a>). Maybe I should take that one instead. It would be a good course to get me back up to speed&#8230; but it&#8217;s basically revision &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t really be learning anything new.</p>
<p>That was a tough decision. In the end I decided to take the Java Web Services class on Tuesday evenings &#8211; what Java I&#8217;m missing I can pick up as I go along. Class was great, lecturer is great, course content looks fantastic. Then on Wednesday I&#8217;m musing&#8230; you know, if I&#8217;m SERIOUS about this then I should give my Java all the help I can and be sure to fill in any gaps &#8211; and I should take the Advanced Java course <em>as well</em>. And so I signed up for that one as well and I&#8217;ve been going along to that on Thursdays.</p>
<p>Same tutor for both classes which is good. As well as a couple of assignments for each course, he also sets lab work each week for each class so I&#8217;m spending time outside the classroom working with the course material &#8211; which is great, but eats into my free time.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s actually only ONE of THREE major time sinks over the last week or two&#8230; more to come later.</p>
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		<title>Job application &#8211; fail</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Jennings</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just got a job application rejection from Elastic Path Not my first rejection, I guess I shouldn&#8217;t be too upset by it&#8230; but I am! Via a convoluted path (a workmate of my wife is a friend of a project manager there) I got a &#8220;we&#8217;re looking for developers&#8221; email. Phoned up the project manager [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got a job application rejection from <a href="http://www.elasticpath.com/">Elastic Path</a></p>
<p>Not my first rejection, I guess I shouldn&#8217;t be too upset by it&#8230; but I am!</p>
<p>Via a convoluted path (a workmate of my wife is a friend of a project manager there) I got a &#8220;we&#8217;re looking for developers&#8221; email. Phoned up the project manager who was very friendly and seemed impressed by my experience. They&#8217;re a Java shop and I&#8217;ve got Java experience but have been concentrating on C# &amp; .NET skills. I pointed this out but he seemed pleased that I at least had a couple of years Java experience.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re apparently looking for developers at all levels, although their website only makes specific reference to Senior Developer. The company looks fantastic &#8211; their primary product is an ecommerce framework built in Java over a collection of strong open source components. Lots of high profile customers, small &amp; dynamic organization, great technology.</p>
<p>So I sent my resume in. A week later he asks me for my BCIT transcripts&#8230; and is impressed by my grades (97% and 98% *buffs fingernails on lapel*)&#8230; and then rejects me.</p>
<p>But he was good enough to talk to me about WHY they were rejecting me. Seemed to centre around me not being able to hit the ground running&#8230; lack of current experience&#8230; maybe I should target intermediate positions etc etc.</p>
<p>All true and valid &#8211; but kinda frustrating because I understood that. I was a senior developer for many years but, having been out of the industry for nearly 5 years now, I&#8217;m not expecting to jump into a senior role and my cover letter explicitly says that I&#8217;m looking for an intermediate position.</p>
<p>Still, what&#8217;s done is done. A company I&#8217;d really love to work for so I&#8217;ll be keeping an eye on them in case they add any intermediate positions in the future as I continue working at updating that skillset.</p>
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